The Experience on Dragons' Den

Richard Simpson, COO and problem solver of cheesegeek, goes through his very own experience on BBC's Dragons Den', the good, the bad and the cheesy parts.

Applying

When our first application went into the BBC to appear on Dragons’ Den, I don’t think we really believed we would get through to the next stage, let alone appear on the show. It’s a thorough process and the prospect of being asked in for filming seemed distant. Until the email arrived with confirmation - we had a slot on the very first day of filming the new series. Excitement was our first reaction - we have the chance to earn investment and have a Dragon on board. Then after the initial news settles down, you realise that you will actually have to pitch. On camera. To Dragons. Eeek.

Preparing 

First step: watch past episodes of Dragons’ Den. A lot. Given we were potentially appearing on series 19, that’s a lot of episodes. I went back to about series 10 I think by which time we had a good idea of all the potential questions we might get but also which pitches impressed us and why. From there, we could build out the structure of ours and prepare answers to likely questions. The closer we got to the day, I actually found that watching more episodes was having the adverse effect and making me more nervous - I imparted a self-imposed DD ban in the week before filming.

Second step: practice, practice, practice. I practiced to my wife, practiced to my kids (not much helpful feedback from a 3 and 1 year old)...then we upped the stakes and presented to colleagues (who all enjoyed taking on roles of the Dragons). We even replicated the lift entrance, made sure we were the appropriate distance apart and tried to make it as close to the Den as possible. Realistically though, my daughter is no Deborah Meaden.

Our focus was very much on perfecting the pitch. We felt confident that we could answer most if not all questions - we were given great advice that ultimately, nobody knows cheese (and the business) like we do. It’s true.

As well as prepping our pitch, we also needed to organise our display table and screens in advance. Now, if you’re a business that sells suitcases this is pretty easy - you can just bring along your product and give a demo. Cheese is a little more…unpredictable. We had to keep everything chilled right up until the last possible moment, including obviously the samples that we were offering the Dragons. Next time, remind us not to get involved in perishables.

On the day

We travelled up the night before to avoid any last minute travel hiccups, proceeded to get absolutely no sleep and felt anything but refreshed. I tried to eat but it took me 30 minutes for a bowl of corn flakes. Not a good start. We arrived at the studio at 7am as we had a morning slot…and the waiting began. Like waiting for a flight if you hate flying. Or an exam. Or the morning of your wedding. It went on and on. We practiced our pitch to anyone who would listen but given we kept stumbling, it wasn’t helping. I tried and failed to eat again. It wasn’t until early afternoon that we got the call. Pitch time.

Coming out of the lift, I intentionally tried to make eye contact with each of them. From memory, Sara and Deborah were smiling and settled me down (Peter Jones was a little more stern). There are no niceties though, we were straight into our pitch. Three minutes, one opportunity - thankfully we made it through. In fact, it went better than most of our practices - nothing like a bit of pressure and adrenaline to get you through. Edward is a master of the figures so we quickly got them out in the open and the conversion flowed - whilst a stretch to say we enjoyed the questions, it was great to talk about the business with such experienced and well regarded entrepreneurs. Even if we weren’t to get a deal, the experience was great. After some (many) cheese puns we received 3 offers (Peter, then Steven and Touker). We headed to the wall to discuss - given we were socially distanced, I’m the first to admit that I didn’t hear a huge amount of what Edward was saying. I knew the gist and after a short negotiation, we agreed a deal with Steven. Result.

After some awkward, socially distanced first bumps we got back in the lift where I proceeded to curse non stop for about 30 seconds. Very unlike me and unsurprisingly this didn't make the final edit.

What surprised me?

  • The Dragons. Less intimidating and more supportive than I imagined.
  • The lift. If you know, you know
  • Watching yourself on telly is far worse than the pitch itself. I hid behind the sofa for the majority of our segment

If you’re thinking of applying, go for it. It’s a once in a lifetime opportunity. Even if you don’t get the outcome you want, you’ll learn things about yourself and your business that you never thought you would.

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June's seasonal cheese selection

For July we curated a really pungent selection with extra holes.

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cheesegeek A box per season A Year in Cheese
A Year in Cheese

1 total reviews

Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

A Year in Cheese will take you on a 12 month (4 boxes) journey through artisan cheese. You’ll experience the change that seasons bring - yes, cheese is seasonal! - the comfort cheeses that suit a winter’s evening through to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board. 

You’ll learn how even the same cheese can taste different depending on the time of year and even the most ardent goat-haters will be turned by how great a Golden Cross taste in Spring. Cheese will never be the same again.

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A Season in Cheese

3 total reviews

Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

A Season in Cheese will showcase the very best a season has to offer. You'll receive 3 deliveries - 1 each month for 3 months - of exceptional artisan cheese that's truly at the peak of its life. From the comfort cheese that suits a winter's evening to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board, each box will be a window into the world of seasonal cheese.

     

    cheesegeek Cheese every month for a year: £30/box A Year in Cheese - cheese every month for a year
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    Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

    A Year in Cheese will take you on a full 12 month journey through artisan cheese. You’ll experience the change that seasons bring - yes, cheese is seasonal! - the comfort cheeses that suit a winter’s evening through to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board. 

    You’ll learn how even the same cheese can taste different depending on the time of year and even the most ardent goat-haters will be turned by how great a Golden Cross taste in Spring. Cheese will never be the same again.

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    A Year in Cheese will take you on a 12 month (6 box) journey through artisan cheese. You’ll experience the change that seasons bring - yes, cheese is seasonal! - the comfort cheeses that suit a winter’s evening through to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board. 

    You’ll learn how even the same cheese can taste different depending on the time of year and even the most ardent goat-haters will be turned by how great a Golden Cross taste in Spring. Cheese will never be the same again.

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    July’s seasonal cheese selection

    For July we curated a really pungent selection with extra holes.

    1 of ProductListDrop
    cheesegeek A box per season A Year in Cheese
    A Year in Cheese

    1 total reviews

    Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

    A Year in Cheese will take you on a 12 month (4 boxes) journey through artisan cheese. You’ll experience the change that seasons bring - yes, cheese is seasonal! - the comfort cheeses that suit a winter’s evening through to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board. 

    You’ll learn how even the same cheese can taste different depending on the time of year and even the most ardent goat-haters will be turned by how great a Golden Cross taste in Spring. Cheese will never be the same again.

    cheesegeek A season at a time: A box for the next 3 months (3 boxes in total) A Season in Cheese - cheese for the next 3 months
    A Season in Cheese

    3 total reviews

    Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

    A Season in Cheese will showcase the very best a season has to offer. You'll receive 3 deliveries - 1 each month for 3 months - of exceptional artisan cheese that's truly at the peak of its life. From the comfort cheese that suits a winter's evening to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board, each box will be a window into the world of seasonal cheese.

       

      cheesegeek Cheese every month for a year: £30/box A Year in Cheese - cheese every month for a year
      A Year in Cheese - cheese every month for a year

      Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

      A Year in Cheese will take you on a full 12 month journey through artisan cheese. You’ll experience the change that seasons bring - yes, cheese is seasonal! - the comfort cheeses that suit a winter’s evening through to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board. 

      You’ll learn how even the same cheese can taste different depending on the time of year and even the most ardent goat-haters will be turned by how great a Golden Cross taste in Spring. Cheese will never be the same again.

      cheesegeek Cheese every other month for a year: £31.50/box A Year in Cheese - cheese every other month for a year
      A Year in Cheese - cheese every other month for a year

      1 total reviews

      Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

      A Year in Cheese will take you on a 12 month (6 box) journey through artisan cheese. You’ll experience the change that seasons bring - yes, cheese is seasonal! - the comfort cheeses that suit a winter’s evening through to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board. 

      You’ll learn how even the same cheese can taste different depending on the time of year and even the most ardent goat-haters will be turned by how great a Golden Cross taste in Spring. Cheese will never be the same again.

      cheesegeek Charcuterie
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      August's seasonal cheese selection

      For July we curated a really pungent selection with extra holes.

      1 of ProductListDrop
      cheesegeek A box per season A Year in Cheese
      A Year in Cheese

      1 total reviews

      Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

      A Year in Cheese will take you on a 12 month (4 boxes) journey through artisan cheese. You’ll experience the change that seasons bring - yes, cheese is seasonal! - the comfort cheeses that suit a winter’s evening through to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board. 

      You’ll learn how even the same cheese can taste different depending on the time of year and even the most ardent goat-haters will be turned by how great a Golden Cross taste in Spring. Cheese will never be the same again.

      cheesegeek A season at a time: A box for the next 3 months (3 boxes in total) A Season in Cheese - cheese for the next 3 months
      A Season in Cheese

      3 total reviews

      Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

      A Season in Cheese will showcase the very best a season has to offer. You'll receive 3 deliveries - 1 each month for 3 months - of exceptional artisan cheese that's truly at the peak of its life. From the comfort cheese that suits a winter's evening to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board, each box will be a window into the world of seasonal cheese.

         

        cheesegeek Cheese every month for a year: £30/box A Year in Cheese - cheese every month for a year
        A Year in Cheese - cheese every month for a year

        Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

        A Year in Cheese will take you on a full 12 month journey through artisan cheese. You’ll experience the change that seasons bring - yes, cheese is seasonal! - the comfort cheeses that suit a winter’s evening through to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board. 

        You’ll learn how even the same cheese can taste different depending on the time of year and even the most ardent goat-haters will be turned by how great a Golden Cross taste in Spring. Cheese will never be the same again.

        cheesegeek Cheese every other month for a year: £31.50/box A Year in Cheese - cheese every other month for a year
        A Year in Cheese - cheese every other month for a year

        1 total reviews

        Take the cheese path less trodden. Everyone can enjoy a balanced board on Boxing Day but confining your cheese adventure to Christmas feels a little…unadventurous. 

        A Year in Cheese will take you on a 12 month (6 box) journey through artisan cheese. You’ll experience the change that seasons bring - yes, cheese is seasonal! - the comfort cheeses that suit a winter’s evening through to the fresher cheeses that suit a summer sharing board. 

        You’ll learn how even the same cheese can taste different depending on the time of year and even the most ardent goat-haters will be turned by how great a Golden Cross taste in Spring. Cheese will never be the same again.

        cheesegeek Charcuterie
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        September's seasonal cheese selection

        Each month we curate 5 of the finest cheeses the UK has to offer. They highlight quality craftsmanship, complex flavour profiles and form the backbone of our gifts and subscriptions.

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        The Cheese Geek Ashcombe
        Ashcombe

        2 total reviews

        Semi hard

        Ashcombe was once described as "Smoother than Marvin Gaye" and we'd have to agree. There's a reason this handsome chap (and we're not just talking about the cheesemaker DJ), has won so many awards. An Alpine style cheese with a line of wood ash running through, giving you gentle milky flavours with a slightly smoky finish. 

        The Cheese Geek St Helena
        Stoney Cross

        4 total reviews

        Semi hard

        Loosely based on a Tomme de Savoie, Stoney Cross is a buttery, velvety cheese featuring a creamy centre with a bit of squidge encased in a rugged rind

        The Cheese Geek 250g Bath Soft
        Bath Soft

        2 total reviews

        SOFT

        This square-shaped cheese, made in the style of a Brie, is everything a good soft cheese should be. Softy, creamy, buttery and yielding, with a lovely bite from the rind. Whilst the centre of the Bath Soft cheese is very mild and buttery, the rind packs some more flavour, with mushroom, earthy damp vibes, and a teeny citrus/lemon tang hidden in there. It is a relatively mild cheese on the Brie-style spectrum, but beautifully complex, and not a cheese to be missed. (Their blue cheese won Best Cheese in World 2014!).

        The Cheese Geek Shropshire Blue
        Shropshire Blue

        3 total reviews

        BLUE

        For a flash of colour on your Christmas Cheese board, look no further than the stunning Shropshire Blue. Despite its name, Shropshire Blue is not made in Shropshire at all and is generally made in either Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire or Leicestershire. It is a pasteurised cow’s milk blue cheese with a semi-firm texture which is described as being a bit more mellow than a Stilton and edging towards qualities of a Cheshire! Over the course of maturation, this cheese develops a natural orange-brown rind and has a tangy aroma. The flavour is strong and sharp, with a metallic edge coming through from the starter cultures used.

        October's seasonal cheese selection

        Each month we curate 5 of the finest cheeses the UK has to offer. They highlight quality craftmanship, complex flavour profiles and form the backbone of our gifts and subscriptions.

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        cheesegeek Bibury
        Bibury
        Semi hard

         

        A sheep's milk cheese made with milk from the flock at Sheaf House Farm just up the road in Gloucestershire. Made only seasonally from late March, Bibury comes to life in Autumn. Classic notes of meadow flowers and hay along with white chocolate and a fondant texture that is very appealing.

         

        cheesegeek Swift Reserve
        Swift Reserve

        3 total reviews

        HARD

        A scintillating 9-month aged gouda style cheese. 

        If there was ever a Goldilocks gouda, then this is it. Just young enough to be supple, buttery, nutty sweet and unbelievably moreish, yet old enough to have developed a slightly weathered earthiness and rich complexity. We reckon this tastes like liberally buttered jacket potato skins. Oh, and finish is a joy to behold, long, sweet and delightful.

        To top it off Swift Reserve pairs perfectly with coffee (yes, coffee). Transport yourself to the Med and enjoy a wedge of cheese with your morning caffeine. Keeping you fuller for longer and tasting shockingly good, it'll soon become part of your breakfast routine. Exclusive to cheesegeek.

        Look out for the Swift Black coming soon to one of London's most exciting coffee specialists!

        cheesegeek Quicke's Mature Cheddar
        Quicke's Mature Cheddar
        HARD

        Mature, and not in a dull, doesn't like to leave the house way. Quicke's Mature is just fully developed. Quicke's the makers date back to 1540s so they know how to make goooood cheese. Handcrafted using grass-fed cow milk, this well rounded cheddar is typically matured for 12-18 months (hence the name) and brings you a variety of flavours from brothy to buttery to freshly mown grass and baked potato flavours. Always with the characteristic cheddar tang.

        cheesegeek Washington
        Washington

        2 total reviews

        SOFT

        British cider-washed soft cheese

        An unforgettable soft cheese, washed in cider. 

        A testament to British cheesemaking, and a nod to continental cheesemaking. Washington is a washed rind cheese destined for great things. When slightly younger, the flavours are fresher and crisper, with just a hint of fruitiness. Ripened on, it develops deep, savoury, meaty flavour, a bit like those famous continental pongers like Epoisses. However, the cider wash brings an astonishing fermented fruity funk, balancing the savoury flavours perfectly, all playing out amidst the most tantalising creamy, decadent, luxurious texture. A modern take on history, and a cheese for the ages.

        cheesegeek Perl Las
        Cornish Blue
        BLUE

        Designed to be eaten as a young cheese, Cornish Blue is a very different product from traditional English blue cheeses. Its flavour is mild and creamy, with a dense texture and buttery richness, instead of the ‘salty tang’ common of other traditional blue cheeses it has a gentle sweetness.

        November's seasonal cheese selection

        Each month we curate 5 of the finest cheeses the UK has to offer. They highlight quality craftsmanship, complex flavour profiles and form the backbone of our gifts and subscriptions.

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        cheesegeek 200g Rutland Red
        Rutland Red
        HARD

        The only pasteurised Red Leicester to be produced in Leicester, this beaut is buttery and flaky and a firm favourite and both cheesegeek and Long Clawson, the cheesemakers. We're not the only ones to think so as Rutland Red has won many an award, we think the finish is reminiscent of a Creme Brulee. Red Leicester is classic on any cheeseboard and is also one of our top picks to cook with, Cauliflower Cheese we're looking at you!!

        cheesegeek Cornish Kern
        Cornish Kern

        6 total reviews

        HARD

        From Lynher Dairies, the makers of Cornish Yarg and Garlic Yarg, we welcome Cornish Kern—a stonker of a cheese. This beaut is off the chart with flavour. Encased in black wax, it is made in the style of a Gouda, however, the utilisation of Alpine starter cultures gives the cheese multiple dimensions. It has a real fruity twang, something like from an old sweet shop, except cheesy. Think exotic dried fruits, salted caramel, toasted hazelnuts and almonds, and although savoury, it simply tempts and teases you with a little bit of nutty buttery sweetness. All the flavours just linger beautifully in your mouth for the perfect amount of time. Its crumbly, crisp and slate-like texture simply arouses one's senses to another planet. An absolute worldy cheese....literally.